INTERVIEWS
An NHNE Special Report
By NHNE SwiftWing Reporter Sherry Stultz
sherrystultz@earthlink.net

 

Kerry Blower
(From CROP CIRCLE UPDATE 8, Interviewed June 12, 1998, Red Lion Inn, Avebury, Wiltshire and October 4, 1998 on the phone from the United States)

"Crop circles were my Jesus Christ and somebody came along and said, 'he's a fake.' I don't believe in a genuine phenomena and that's saying it without any pain or anger. I am moving on."

Polly Carson
(June 30, 1998, Red Lion Inn, Avebury, Wiltshire)

"We had the one that's on the Led Zeppelin album. We had the first pictogram in the world and when we saw what it was, I didn't realize how special it was. I didn't realize it was the first time-straight lines that had ever appeared in the world.... in about 24 hours we had the world's press. And then its started: people arrived in the thousands. We naively put signs up: "PLEASE VIEW THIS FORMATION FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD." Not only did they take the signs down, but they took the fence down. And after eight days of thousands of people arriving by the coach-load, trampling our crop and smoking in the field, we decided we had to do something about it, so we employed somebody to sit at the top of the field and say, "Please can you walk down this tram line and please can you not smoke." And because we paid this person to do this, we charged people a pound. And that's when we got blasted all over the papers because we were charging... It was a carnival atmosphere. It was just a wonderful summer."

John Lundberg
(From FIELD REPORT 5, Interviewed Saturday, June 13, 1998, Alton Barnes, Wiltshire)

"We have done [other areas], but there's something very magical about this area, I mean the Wiltshire Triangle, the Avebury Stone Circles, Silbury Hill and Stonehenge as well. When you make a circle here in the right place, near a sacred site, it becomes more than the sum of its parts. Now if we made a circle out in Sussex somewhere, it doesn't have the same power.... [But] this is the worst area to make them because everybody expects them to be here. People are watching the fields which makes it very difficult for us to make circles here. It would be much easier for us to go out into the middle of nowhere but we feel making formations here is more powerful. We are always lampooned by the researchers for muddying the waters, but I just do not believe it at all. I feel what we do is integral to the phenomenon; it's a core part of the phenomenon; it's a contribution to the phenomenon. There's no way that we are muddying the waters. The circles we make are genuine, absolutely."

Vincent Palmer
(June 7, 1998, The Barge Inn, Alton Barnes,Wiltshire)

"I've been in them every day since 1990 -- 8 years now -- and unless you're strictly a scientist or your heart's open enough to feel that there is an ongoing change, I feel that whatever benefit there was from them, I've already received. And it's bit like somebody who goes back to see a guru in India. The guru says, 'Why are you here again? Didn't you learn the first time?' That's pretty much how I feel personally. It's like you've got to carry the spirit in your life in general. I feel that it's flattened corn: there are interesting shapes and I don't see that it's progressed over eight years."

Lucy Pringle
(July 18, 1998, Crop Circle Celebration Conference, Alton Barnes, Wiltshire)

"In my research I am looking into the psychological aspect and I have found that men are far worse affected by this simply because of the activation of the right cortex of the brain. Now that is the emotional side and men are brought up mainly to conceal their emotions. We are allowed to cry and lose our temper and scream occasionally, so we can deal with our emotions and we are not frightened by emotions; we recognize and were aware of them. Men are have always been encouraged to cover up their emotions and this is a problem for them. And they go into the crop circles and suddenly wham! This great knock on their emotional side and some of them, it sends them absolutely off-beam."

John Sayer
(From FIELD REPORT 3, Tuesday, June 23, 1998, Wheatley, Hampshire)

"These people who call themselves crop circle researchers and say there is no evidence [of hoaxing] are actually lying -- and it's not that they don't really know -- of course they know, but they have set off down a certain road and for a lot of them it's being on the lecture circuit and writing books, producing calendars and sets of postcards, coffee mugs, and pens. And if people start questioning the whole thing and thinking, 'there's not really anything in this,' then the market's going to dry up and that's the sad state we have reached. Except for THE CEREOLOGIST (laughter), which is just reporting on the phenomenon. We don't produce cups, ashtrays and toilet rolls."

Paul Vigay
(June 4 and June 10, 1998, Portsmouth)

"I'd like to see it myself before I'd believe it. And certainly a lot of the stuff I've had, you can't explain it through hoaxing. For example, I was with my mum and I had my mobile phone. She said let me borrow your phone; I'll ring your dad and say I am in the middle of a crop circle. I gave her the phone and she said it wouldn't work. And I thought she didn't know how to work it. Well, there was no signal on the bar graph. I thought this is strange. I went to the edge of the crop circle and held it outside and you could actually see the meter go up to full signal strength outside the crop circle. I pulled the phone back in and literally in a space of two feet, it went back down to zero. So I went forward a few steps and did it again and the exact same results. And it was one of these elaborate sort of pictograms, with keys and little shapes. And the exact shape of the crop circle there was no signal; the phone just didn't work inside it and yet just arm's length outside it into the standing crop, it was full-signal strength."

Alan Smithee
(June 13, 1998, The Barge Inn, Alton Barnes,Wiltshire)

SJS: You think they are all hoaxed?

GW: I think they are made by people but their motivations are very little understood by researchers. And they tend to dismiss them as mindless morons, when they all have backgrounds in art and graphic art design and they are very interested in the paranormal; they are trying to foster a kind of social phenomenon and they have done it...

SJS: So you don't think that any crop circles come from a higher power source?

GW: No, but I do believe that what goes on while people are making them and what goes on afterwards in the way people relate to them is paranormal. I think what happens is that people so much want spiritual gaps in their life to be plugged, that they come to circles; and they so much want for something to happen, that it actually happens. That's what happened to me when I believed in them; weird things happened to me. When I stopped believing in them, they stopped happening. I've got strange photographs I can't account for and bizarre coincidences that seemed to go on and on, and when I stopped believing in the non-human cause of circles, they went away...

Matthew Williams
(From FIELD REPORT 7, Interviewed Monday, July 20, 1998, Red Lion Inn, Avebury, Wiltshire and Monday, July 27th in East Kennett)

"I myself came to a level where I believed that many of them were hoaxed, but I needed to find out exactly which ones would be capable of fooling the researchers. So I [worked with] a team of people in doing some circles to actually test the researchers abilities to find out what is real and what is not, what is man-made and what is genuine paranormal. We tried a varying range of circles -- everything from very messy strange symbols right through to quite complicated patterns. [Some circles] we were quite impressed with, while other ones we weren't impressed with; some we would have said, 'Oh, what a joke' -- that type of circle. Basically, the whole range [of crop circles we made] were claimed as being very impressive, paranormal-phenomenon type circles."

 

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CROP CIRCLES
An NHNE Special Report
By NHNE SwiftWing Reporter Sherry Stultz
sherrystultz@earthlink.net